# Cognition's Jeff Wang on demoting the IDE, with Richard Liu from Anthropic

DevFeed: [Cognition's Jeff Wang on demoting the IDE, with Richard Liu from Anthropic](<https://devfeed.tech/articles/cognition-s-jeff-wang-on-demoting-the-ide-with-richard-liu-from-anthropic-1913.md>)

Original publisher: [Read original article](<https://1password.com/blog/demoting-the-ide>)

Author: info@1password.com (Chris Fowler)

Published: 2026-08-13T00:00:00Z

Content type: article

Language: en

Sources: [Blog on 1Password Blog](<https://devfeed.tech/sources/blog-on-1password-blog.md>)

Topics: [AI-assisted coding](<https://devfeed.tech/topics/ai-assisted-coding.md>), [developer tooling](<https://devfeed.tech/topics/developer-tooling.md>), [Vulnerabilities](<https://devfeed.tech/topics/vulnerabilities.md>)

Tags: [agents](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/agents.md>), [ai](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/ai.md>), [ai-coding](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/ai-coding.md>), [developers](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/developers.md>), [ide](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/ide.md>), [podcasts](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/podcasts.md>), [vulnerabilities](<https://devfeed.tech/tags/vulnerabilities.md>)

## AI overview

A podcast episode examines how AI coding agents shift software work from manual coding toward delegating, verifying, and unblocking agent tasks.

## Source excerpt

How AI coding agents are changing software development Zero-Shot Learning is a podcast about how AI gets built, secured, and deployed. Hosted by Nancy Wang, 1Password CTO, and Dev Tagare, Senior Director of Engineering at Google, it's a builder's view of the architecture and the complex decisions it takes to ship with AI. This episode features guest co-host Richard Liu, Head of API Products at Anthropic, who sits in for Dev. The IDE has been the center of software development for decades, but Jeff Wang thinks its time in the spotlight is ending. On Zero-Shot Learning, the President of New Enterprise at Cognition described how his team's workflows are shifting from manually writing every change to delegating work and verifying the results of AI coding agents. After leading Windsurf and now working with Devin at Cognition, Jeff has seen developers across industries explore how to implement AI. From interactively collaborating with coding agents to deploying long-running agents in the cloud, he has seen what agents change inside the editor and what they require outside of it. If the question is what's the most effective way to ship, Jeff isn't betting on the IDE. Offloading undesirable work to AI coding agents For Jeff's team, AI coding agents prove useful for the work no one volunteers for. Agents respond to event-triggered tasks like reproducing bugs, remediating vulnerabilities, and repairing CI failures, where they effectively reduce noise that distracts developers from planned work. "If you go into any engineering organization, you don't want to take away the things they want to do," Jeff says. "You want to take away the things people don't want to do. You ask everybody in the development team, 'Hey, who wants to replicate this bug?' Nobody is going to raise their hand." He says these agents now account for roughly 40% of the workload at Cognition. Cognition also works with enterprise customers using Devin. At some large banks, Jeff says, Devin automatically fixes